need to handle the questions better? So
here are some questions I’ve commonly been asked about Thanksgiving
services, and their comparison to Baptisms.
Can he still be married in church?
Anyone in the parish can.
Is it a real Christening?
Yes. If you look up the
word “Christen” in a dictionary, you’ll find it says “baptise” -
that’s an indication of the age of the dictionary rather than a statement of
The word “Christen” means “bring to Christ”.
Both services do that. The
Thanksgiving and Blessing does it in the way people did it in the bible (Mark
10:13-16). Some people have used “Christen” in the sense of “Make someone a
Christian.” Neither service
does that, because being a Christian is about one’s own relationship with
Does it make him a Christian?
Neither service does that. You
get to be a Christian by putting your own trust in Jesus.
We pray that he’ll want to do that, but we can’t do it for him.
Does it make him a member of the Church?
Again, neither service does that.
The “Church” consists of those people who love Jesus (“the
blessed company of all faithful people” BCP p258, “congregation of
faithful men” Article XIX). (It
is true the baptism service declares him to be a member, but it cannot make
him a member.)
Does it mean he’ll go to heaven if he dies?
The bible doesn’t tell us about other people’s destiny - only our
own. However, the Greek word
toiouto in Mk 10:14 is inclusive - Jesus meant “The kingdom of God belongs
to these children and others like them”.
(For a discussion of this, see “Kids and the Kingdom” John Inchley.)
This is before any service had been performed, and is immediately
followed by a Blessing - Baptism is not mentioned.
The C of E does not believe that a church service affects a child’s
eternal destiny (ASB p280).
Do we have godparents?
Yes. We commission them in the service and they promise to help the
parents in bring up the child, and later to support the child in growing up.
(Obviously this depends on the liturgy used.)
However, the church has no power to make anyone a guardian, and neither
service does this. You need to
make wills to appoint guardians after your deaths.
For this reason, godparents are often called sponsors (royal
Christenings have always had “sponsors”.)
Is it a sacrament?
(Actually, I’ve only ever been asked this once, by a clergyman! Therefore I reply in small print:)
Define me a sacrament.
OK, something which does what it says it will do.
In that case, yes: we pronounce God’s blessing and he blesses.
However, in this case neither communion nor baptism are sacraments, as
they both take effect only when they are worthily received (Art XXV) - i.e.
they meet with faith. In fact,
the only other sacrament in the church would be marrying a couple who are
already living together.
K, an outward sign of an inward and spiritual grace.
In that case, again yes, because the minister makes a sign outwardly of
what God does inwardly.
OK, how about something instituted by Jesus in the gospels?
Again yes - in fact, the gospels are definite that Jesus did this,
whereas they are ambiguous on whether Jesus baptised (John 4:2).
Many scholars say Jesus got disillusioned with baptism, which seems to
fade out after the beginning of the gospels.
OK, wait while I get my catechism and remember what a sacrament is...